the fire these times

65/ A Rapid and Just Transition of Aviation: Shifting towards climate-just mobility (with Anne Kretzschmar)

Patreon supporters will receive early access to this.

This is a conversation with Anne Kretzschmar. She’s a coordinator with the Stay Grounded network which works on a global level to reduce air traffic and build a climate-just transport system. They recently published a paper entitled ‘A Rapid and Just Transition of Aviation: Shifting towards climate-just mobility‘ which was a big part of our conversation.

Topics discussed:

  • Social and environmental costs of airport projects
  • The problem behind ‘carbon offsetting’
  • Looking for just alternatives
  • Tackling tax exemption for aviation
  • How flying is already unjust
  • The problem of frequent flyers
  • Implementing actual limits (frequent flyer levee)
  • Europe’s lack of international booking for trains
  • Trains can also be a problem (example of Maya Train project in Mexico)
  • Wider question of asking what kind of mobility do we need and wand and how can we distribute it in a just way
  • Taking the topic of jobs and labor seriously
  • Impact of COVID-19 on aviation and what might come next
  • Degrowth
  • Change by Design or by Disaster
  • Green New Deal for Gatwick
  • How ‘bailouts’ rarely actually support those most impacted by industry losses
  • Alternative tourisms
  • The importance of internationality and the centrality of environmental justice
  • Supporting critical aviator workers
  • Airport-related Injustice and Resistance map

Recommended Books:

If you like what I do, please consider supporting this project with only 1$ a month on Patreon or on You can also do so directly on PayPal if you prefer.

Patreon is for monthly, PayPal is for one-offs and BuyMeACoffee has both options.

If you can’t donate anything, you can still support this project by sharing with your friends and leaving a review wherever you get your podcasts!

Music by Tarabeat.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

<span>%d</span> bloggers like this:
close-alt close collapse comment ellipsis expand gallery heart lock menu next pinned previous reply search share star