89/ Tiananmen, Denialism and History (With Christopher Wong)

This is a conversation with Christopher Wong, a writer and researcher with Cool Zone Media whose essay “When communists crushed the international workers’ movement” for Lausan was the subject of this conversation.


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Music by Tarabeat.


Topics Discussed:

  • The Tiananmen massacre in its historical context
  • The meaning of Tiananmen
  • How we remember Tiananmen and what we erase
  • The before and the after
  • The cost of denialism
  • Tiananmen/Syria comparisons
  • Occupying the squares vs occupying the factories
  • On class identities
  • How could it have been different?
  • Aesthetics and politics
  • Burying the past
  • On tankies

Recommended Books:

+ I recommended Anarchist Modernity: Cooperatism and Japanese-Russian Intellectual Relations in Modern Japan by Sho Konishi


If you like what I do, please consider supporting this project with only 1$ a month on Patreon or on BuyMeACoffee.com. You can also do so directly on PayPal if you prefer.

Patreon is for monthly, PayPal is for one-offs and BuyMeACoffee has both options.

You can follow on Twitter or Instagram @ firethesetimes too.

If you can’t donate anything, you can still support this project by sharing with your friends and leaving a review wherever you get your podcasts!

Music by Tarabeat.

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